<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Seminary Online, by Extension or On-Campus? The Benefits and Drawbacks of Each&#8230;</title> <atom:link href="http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/27/seminary-online-by-extension-or-on-campus-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-each/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/27/seminary-online-by-extension-or-on-campus-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-each/</link> <description>Living on Earth as Citizens of Heaven</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:20:18 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: GW</title><link>http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/27/seminary-online-by-extension-or-on-campus-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-each/comment-page-1/#comment-5492</link> <dc:creator>GW</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:39:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://trevinwax.com/?p=4395#comment-5492</guid> <description>I did all my MDIV from Liberty Theological Seminary online. If I could have had my way I would have gone on campus for obvious reasons. But I was pastoring and one year into marriage and had a brand new baby.  Online was the only way I could fit seminary on to my plate. And it worked out very well for me personally. Some people put down online schools, however anywhere you are you get out what you put in.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did all my MDIV from Liberty Theological Seminary online. If I could have had my way I would have gone on campus for obvious reasons. But I was pastoring and one year into marriage and had a brand new baby.  Online was the only way I could fit seminary on to my plate. And it worked out very well for me personally. Some people put down online schools, however anywhere you are you get out what you put in.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon</title><link>http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/27/seminary-online-by-extension-or-on-campus-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-each/comment-page-1/#comment-5490</link> <dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:23:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://trevinwax.com/?p=4395#comment-5490</guid> <description>At GCTS the internet classes are substantially less expensive before matriculation and are the exact same price as other classes after matriculation. You can only take a maximum of 1/3 of your classes through correspondence.If one does correspondence classes, a great way to do it is if you can find a friend or two to take it with you. You can listen to the lectures together and discuss what you are learning.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At GCTS the internet classes are substantially less expensive before matriculation and are the exact same price as other classes after matriculation. You can only take a maximum of 1/3 of your classes through correspondence.</p><p>If one does correspondence classes, a great way to do it is if you can find a friend or two to take it with you. You can listen to the lectures together and discuss what you are learning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Trevin Wax</title><link>http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/27/seminary-online-by-extension-or-on-campus-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-each/comment-page-1/#comment-5489</link> <dc:creator>Trevin Wax</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://trevinwax.com/?p=4395#comment-5489</guid> <description>Reid,It was great to be a classmate with you at the extension in Nashville. I&#039;ve enjoyed your book recommendations.You are right. Being in ministry simultaneously makes seminary so much better. It keeps you grounded in local church thought, and helps you avoid the tendency to ascend to the ivory tower. I enjoyed my time on campus at Southern, but I believe my education there has been enhanced, not hindered by being in full-time service at the same time.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reid,</p><p>It was great to be a classmate with you at the extension in Nashville. I&#8217;ve enjoyed your book recommendations.</p><p>You are right. Being in ministry simultaneously makes seminary so much better. It keeps you grounded in local church thought, and helps you avoid the tendency to ascend to the ivory tower. I enjoyed my time on campus at Southern, but I believe my education there has been enhanced, not hindered by being in full-time service at the same time.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Reid</title><link>http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/27/seminary-online-by-extension-or-on-campus-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-each/comment-page-1/#comment-5488</link> <dc:creator>Reid</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:59:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://trevinwax.com/?p=4395#comment-5488</guid> <description>Good essay Trevin - I have enjoyed J-terms and extension center stuff with you brother.There are benefits on concurrent ministry/study over time. Relevance to mission, integrating theological reflection and practical leadership and understanding questions real people are asking as you read books and write papers. I remember I got a comment on seminary paper because it was written in voice for normal people and not appropriate for seminary studies. I smiled and was thankful for this.Anyway, I started at one seminary in 2001 (Southern Evangelical), transferred 12 hours into Southern in 2004 and site at 53 hours complete. God only knows if/how I&#039;ll finish because he keeps giving me work to do out here.My only regret is not developing a good network of guys who were all heading into pastoral ministry/missions...that can happen on campus or in context more often.The friends I have met, mentors garnered at Southern have been great - but it is hard to do life with people popping in and out.  However, I live the gospel &quot;out here&quot;, and in my opinion, it has been fruitful and fulfilling. Plus, I have read many/most of the books that get assigned at seminary which makes the course work doable amidst my schedule.Thanks again for the great post ReidPS - Online classes at Southern could be more expensive from Southern to dissuade use :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good essay Trevin &#8211; I have enjoyed J-terms and extension center stuff with you brother.</p><p>There are benefits on concurrent ministry/study over time. Relevance to mission, integrating theological reflection and practical leadership and understanding questions real people are asking as you read books and write papers. I remember I got a comment on seminary paper because it was written in voice for normal people and not appropriate for seminary studies. I smiled and was thankful for this.</p><p>Anyway, I started at one seminary in 2001 (Southern Evangelical), transferred 12 hours into Southern in 2004 and site at 53 hours complete. God only knows if/how I&#8217;ll finish because he keeps giving me work to do out here.</p><p>My only regret is not developing a good network of guys who were all heading into pastoral ministry/missions&#8230;that can happen on campus or in context more often.</p><p>The friends I have met, mentors garnered at Southern have been great &#8211; but it is hard to do life with people popping in and out.  However, I live the gospel &#8220;out here&#8221;, and in my opinion, it has been fruitful and fulfilling. Plus, I have read many/most of the books that get assigned at seminary which makes the course work doable amidst my schedule.</p><p>Thanks again for the great post<br /> Reid</p><p>PS &#8211; Online classes at Southern could be more expensive from Southern to dissuade use <img src='http://trevinwax.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Trevin Wax</title><link>http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/27/seminary-online-by-extension-or-on-campus-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-each/comment-page-1/#comment-5487</link> <dc:creator>Trevin Wax</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:40:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://trevinwax.com/?p=4395#comment-5487</guid> <description>Thanks, Steve.Thanks for the additional info on internet courses. That would explain the discrepancy. It also explains why other seminaries are able to offer the online classes at a lower rate.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Steve.</p><p>Thanks for the additional info on internet courses. That would explain the discrepancy. It also explains why other seminaries are able to offer the online classes at a lower rate.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steve Weaver</title><link>http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/27/seminary-online-by-extension-or-on-campus-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-each/comment-page-1/#comment-5486</link> <dc:creator>Steve Weaver</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:39:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://trevinwax.com/?p=4395#comment-5486</guid> <description>Trevin,Great post. Very helpful. As someone who completed my MDiv by using J-Terms, on-campus, and extension centers, I agree with your assessment on those options.I never did an internet course, but my understanding is that the additional fee is due to the fact that the CP dollars do not cover courses offered via internet.  Since the SBTS isn&#039;t reimbursed for those hours, they have to charge the fee to &quot;break even&quot; with those courses.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevin,</p><p>Great post. Very helpful. As someone who completed my MDiv by using J-Terms, on-campus, and extension centers, I agree with your assessment on those options.</p><p>I never did an internet course, but my understanding is that the additional fee is due to the fact that the CP dollars do not cover courses offered via internet.  Since the SBTS isn&#8217;t reimbursed for those hours, they have to charge the fee to &#8220;break even&#8221; with those courses.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Trevin Wax</title><link>http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/27/seminary-online-by-extension-or-on-campus-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-each/comment-page-1/#comment-5484</link> <dc:creator>Trevin Wax</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:00:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://trevinwax.com/?p=4395#comment-5484</guid> <description>Marcus,It seems that online courses should indeed be cheaper. I don&#039;t know for sure why they are so much more expensive at SBTS.If the idea is to discourage internet classes, then I understand how the cost would make sense. But as a student working hard to finish up requirements, the additional cost that is calculated at the end of the seminary education feels like a slap on the hand for doing whatever must be done to graduate.That said, I do agree that on-campus and face-to-face learning is by far the better choice. But usually toward the end of your seminary education, your choices run out.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus,</p><p>It seems that online courses should indeed be cheaper. I don&#8217;t know for sure why they are so much more expensive at SBTS.</p><p>If the idea is to discourage internet classes, then I understand how the cost would make sense. But as a student working hard to finish up requirements, the additional cost that is calculated at the end of the seminary education feels like a slap on the hand for doing whatever must be done to graduate.</p><p>That said, I do agree that on-campus and face-to-face learning is by far the better choice. But usually toward the end of your seminary education, your choices run out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Marcus</title><link>http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/27/seminary-online-by-extension-or-on-campus-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-each/comment-page-1/#comment-5483</link> <dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:46:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://trevinwax.com/?p=4395#comment-5483</guid> <description>Are online courses really more expensive at most seminaries? I go to Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and there the online courses are about half price. I agree, though, that in most cases the benefits of being in the classroom far outweigh the benefits of online courses.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are online courses really more expensive at most seminaries? I go to Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and there the online courses are about half price. I agree, though, that in most cases the benefits of being in the classroom far outweigh the benefits of online courses.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Donovan</title><link>http://trevinwax.com/2009/10/27/seminary-online-by-extension-or-on-campus-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-each/comment-page-1/#comment-5481</link> <dc:creator>Donovan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:21:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://trevinwax.com/?p=4395#comment-5481</guid> <description>I have been studying with King&#039;s Evangelical Divinity School - http://www.midbible.ac.uk/  which is an e-distance course. The big benefits I see is that I can travel around the world and can participate with my laptop. I have a hefty collection of electronic resources with Logos Libronix and I use Accordance Bible Software for exegetical studies. Between this, an internet connection and carrying selected books, I can study anywhere and anytime.The drawback is the lack of face to face interaction. Like you said, forums help, but there is an aspect of sharing and picking up ideas when you are hanging out over a cup of coffee that can only be had face to face. This could be negated by scheduling and hosting online live seminars or lectures, along with residential gatherings. I think online courses have to work very hard at this.Personally, I think we are going to see growth in online studies. It is amazing what technology is allowing us to do now.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been studying with King&#8217;s Evangelical Divinity School &#8211; <a href="http://www.midbible.ac.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.midbible.ac.uk/</a> which is an e-distance course. The big benefits I see is that I can travel around the world and can participate with my laptop. I have a hefty collection of electronic resources with Logos Libronix and I use Accordance Bible Software for exegetical studies. Between this, an internet connection and carrying selected books, I can study anywhere and anytime.</p><p>The drawback is the lack of face to face interaction. Like you said, forums help, but there is an aspect of sharing and picking up ideas when you are hanging out over a cup of coffee that can only be had face to face. This could be negated by scheduling and hosting online live seminars or lectures, along with residential gatherings. I think online courses have to work very hard at this.</p><p>Personally, I think we are going to see growth in online studies. It is amazing what technology is allowing us to do now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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